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8:19 am - "Re: Error"

At 03:56 PM 2/16/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Nathan:
>
>Tried to gain access to Gay Cafe by registration and got the following
>message: "Could not authorize credit card due to a system error." The
>Code listed was 57780. Let me know what I should do about this! Hope you
>had a great Fat Tuesday in New Orleans!

Thank you for the e-mail as well as the phone message. I was on a plane for most of the afternoon. I moved some of the data to a different server today, which caused the credit card processing system to be down for a short period of the day. If you haven't already tried to register again, please do so now.

:)

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

(By the way, you would have received this much sooner, but your e-mail address wasn't correct, you had a . after the @ symbol, and before the "worldnet" part.)

8:19 pm - "Re: The Cafe Gallery inquiry/comment..."

At 10:55 PM 2/16/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Nathan,
>
>Hello, I was curious to know if it would be too much trouble for you to please delete my account with your service. Honestly, I cannot even remember if I signed up for the $5 per month service or note (think I did!). Nonetheless, I have enjoyed the service, however I am in a financial crunch at the moment and I am having to cut corners wherever possible. I apologize for any inconvenience and hope someday real soon, I will be able to re-join. However, again, this is something I am having to do at this time. Hope you understand.
>
>Thanks so much for your assistance.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Robert

Hi Robert,

When your account expires, it will simply become inactive and remain dormant until you decide to come back and activate it again. The nice thing about this feature is it allows you to go away for any period of time, and then simply show back up when it is again convenient for you to use the site again.

When you do visit again, use the same username and password as you do now (it would be a good idea to make a written note of it, as you tend to forget things that you don't use often -- remember that it is case sensitive also, so lowercase letters need to be _lowercase_ and uppercase letters need to be UPPERCASE) to access any of the members only sections of the site. You will be whisked away to the renewal system, which will guide you though the process of activating your access once again. There is no fee or anything of that nature to just let your account sit, you've already paid for it once, and I appreciate your business enough to make it easy for you to stop in at any time in the future.

Thank you for taking a moment to write,

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

8:19 am - "Re: COINS"

At 03:05 AM 2/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY EXPLANATION OF HOW THE COINS ARE
>VALUED AND HOW THEY ARE USED. I DON'T WANT TO RUN OVER MY LIMIT
>WITHOUT BEING AWARE OF IT. PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW THINGS WORK.
>THANK YOU.
>GENE C.

Hi Gene,

Cafe Coins are something that you use to purchase additional photos at the site. When you signed up, you received a certain number of them to get you started. After you "exchange" all of them in for photos, then your account balance for coins will stand at zero. Should you want to add more coins to your account then you are welcome to do so. There are links at the site that will direct you to the page where you can purchase more of these coins, however if you would like me to provide you with a full Internet address, I would be happy to.

It is not possible for you to incur additional charges simply by using the service. You only get charged for something when YOU willingly do so by submitting your credit card information along with an indication of what it is that you are purchasing. At this time, that is limited to three things: a new account registration, a renewal of an existing but expired account, and the purchase of additional Cafe Coins for your account.

I hope that this answers your concerns clearly. Please take a moment to let me know if you have additional concerns. Thank you for writing, and enjoy the site.

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

9:14 am - "The game, not the scoreboard."

At 12:02 AM 2/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Nathan,
>
>Thanks for all the info on the credit card deal. I've talked with
>Larry and it seems that he'd be willing to setup a computer to run
>the ICVerify integration part of the process if I could get the
>same machine to interface with his coffee web site (which I would
>also design) so that it could take orders and authorize the charges
>instanteously as well. Additionally, an ex- of his is pretty computer
>knowledgable, so he could probably set it up. That said, I'm sure it
>would be a lot easier to set up with the scripts you'd already had
>someone figure out. You said before that you might not mind giving
>me a copy, so if you would, I'd much appreciate it. I'm sure they'll
>need reworking to do the transaction via an Internet connection
>instead of via the hard drive connection which you've implemented, but
>they should take a fair share of the work out of the process. (Oh,
>and speaking of scripts, thanks for trying to write me an .htpasswd
>generating script. The effort was most appreciated. :-) You should
>know, though, that I already have one to add usernames and passwords.
>It's called htpasswd.pl and I downloaded it from somewhere or the other
>a while back and have been using it ever since to add the members
>instead of adding them via a command line via Telnet. The fact that you'd
>try to write one for me, though, is pretty darn amazing... not that
>all this other help you've offered hasn't been amazing, too. It has. *smile*
>
>In other news, life's still hectic. Today was Katie's birthday party
>and the house if full with guests... everybody from Jason, a guy who
>Larry's being a sort of gay humanitarian to by moving him out from Mississippi
>to LA to work for him, to Matt, a guy who'll most likely become the house-
>manager, to Grandma & Grandpa. :-)
>
>OK, It's midnight, so I think I'm going to head off to bed now. Thanks
>for all the e-mail and I'll talk to you later... and get back to you
>about visiting LA as soon as the house clears out. :-)
>
>Later,
>Justin

Justin,

You're welcome, however I wonder if you received all of my notes. :) Anyway, I would strongly urge you to save yourself the headaches of getting the ICVerify to work in real-time with the web server right now. What you need to be spending your time on is developing the site, and turning it into a product that will enable you to make money. Spending lots of time on a whizzbang ICVerify system is like trying to win a basketball game by focusing your attentions on getting electricity to the scoreboard. :)

My suggestion in the other notes is the best solution for you right now for two reasons: flexibility and completeness. I am advocating that you set-up a stand alone version of ICVerify and run your transactions though "delayed" by processing the cards from a batch file that is created when people register. Whether you have ten transactions or ten hundred, this will work just fine, trust me. :) And it is something that requires little effort to do.

First, flexibility. You can run this software from a laptop, your desktop at Larry's or where ever else YOU have a PC set-up for "Justin's use only." There is no need to toy with co-locating it somewhere (like your ISP), or trying to establish (much less figure out) how to get the web server to send information to it and get it back when it is done. Too much effort right now to worry about.

Second, completeness. This solution has the same result as the one where the cards would be transacted on-the-fly. You determine which people get to keep their accounts to your site, and which don't. You also get to process the cards, and receive the money. The result is the same, only this method stretches the process out over more time (12 hours instead of an instant).

Set-up your registration script to collect all the information that someone submits, and format it into a tab delimited log file that it writes to a spot on the server (like your home directory or something, just make sure that it is in a non-web accessible portion of the directory tree because you don't want someone to get wise about it and pull it up in their web browser.) Include fields like this in your log file, with one record per line:

e-mail first mi last dob country city state zip phone
product username password auth code cc number cc exp
amount date/time notes

"auth code" is the 6 digit (or so) response that you get for an APPROVAL of the credit card -- this will initially be blank, and you can fill it in later.

"cc number" should be just digits. No spaces dashes, etc.

"cc exp" needs to be formatted YY/MM

"amount" should be formatted like 10.00 -- no $ sign or just plain 10 =)

"date/time" is the time that the registration was added to the log file. This is useful because you need to know when to expire the user's account (say, if they only purchase a one month or a one year plan, you have a gauge of just how long that needs to be.)

"notes" is a filed that you should include for you or the person registering to talk about something that they have a question or concern about. It's a good way to make, well, "notes"

Now, let's say that you get this all set-up and *TESTED*. Marco from Brazil visits your site at 3 in the morning. Finds that he can have a six month membership for $30, and clicks to fill out the on-line form. He does that, and clicks the submit button. What? He didn't supply a valid e-mail, the names are blank, no address, the phone number is empty, but the credit card info is there, so are the username and password choice ... here is where you need to decide what level of error checking your script does. Is it okay to let some fields be empty or invalid? What about the AOL people who give their e-mail as their screen name, not understanding that @aol.com is required as a suffix, or compuserve users that put commas in their e-mail instead of periods?

Okay, so whatever, Marco makes the corrections, and submits the form again. It goes through, and a few seconds later, he gets a "Welcome Receipt" on the screen. In the background, the script has taken all of Marco's form information and put it in the log file, as well as added his username and password to the authentication database (in all _lowercase_ letters, I hope.) Marco reads that he can "click here" to enter the Members Edition, he clicks, and is asked for his account details, which he types in (all lowercase) and is presented with your goods.

Twelve other people do the same thing after Marco during the day.

Later that afternoon, about 5pm, Justin comes back from school, and takes a look at the log file. He uses FTP to grab a copy and put it on his local machine, then renames the existing log file on the server to something like "logyearmonthday" and creates a new "empty" log file for the registration script to put info into (unless it is smart enough to create the log file if it doesn't exist.) Justin grabs his ICVerify manual and reads up on formatting an off-line group file. After getting the right format of quotation marks and commas, you import your log file into Excel and start a cut and paste project, moving the into the format that you need. After forty minutes, you're all the wiser for wear next time you have to do this.

The result is a single file, with one "transaction" per line, and formatted so that ICVerify can understand what to do with it. You copy this file to your ICVerify data directory, then fire up the beast, and tell it that you want it to process the transactions in that file. You go off to the garden and have a nice glass of Merlot and some cheese. (Substitute favorite mid-day munchie atmosphere here -- like a glass of water and the Wall Street Journal for me.)

Fifteen minutes later you return to see that it is done, and has left a response file in the data directory. You grab it and open it up in Excel again. Humm. Three of the twelve were bad. Call Center CC? Declined? Declined Hold? Humm. Okay. You go to your web site, and "remove" those usernames from your authentication database. Then you take a moment to format up e-mail receipts for the other nine people, and send them off. You glance at the clock and see that two hours have almost passed. Humm, "I just made $200," you say to yourself, not bad.

=) Okay, so I hope I've painted a clear picture here for you. I'll see about coming out to LA again near the first week of March. I am suppose to be in Manhattan around the late second to third week of March, so we'll see how that all shapes up.

Send my hello to Larry, Jason, Matt, Grandma, Grandpa, and a happy (belated) birthday to Katie.

Nathan

9:31 am - "Re: Welcome Home!"

At 09:31 AM 2/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I hope that you had a safe and comfortable flight home!
>
>I just wanted you to know that I am thinking of you!
>
>H.

Morning,

Thanks, I did. :) Met an adorable and attractive Aries (not that astrology means anything more to me than the color of my toilet tissue) on the plane. We shared the first row, right hand side of the aircraft and had a wonderful conversation during the entire flight. As to be expected, flight attendants in First Class kept us replete with a nice bottle of Cabernet Sauvignon.

His name is Chris, and he is a program director of a popular radio station in San Diego. We exchanged contact information, talked about dating (girls and guys, I "outed" myself to him when he started asking about my situation), our future, and other matters of interest (like why people still watch television, and how fascinating it is that an airplane can fly for so long.) He offered me my first "Breath Assure" capsule -- it was a little golden pebble about the size of a piece of cooked rice rolled into a tight ball. You swallow it. Needless to say, it has caused me to burp in "natural herb" flavor for the past eight hours.

Kimber picked me up in her car, apparently she used mine while I was away and didn't put gas in it. My parents called to see that I was back okay, and I haven't heard from Shawn. Kim thoroughly chewed me out over that, pointing out that I am being a naive bastard. Did you know that the bottled water Evian spelled backwards is what the people who drink it are?

The site was moved to a "slower" 1.2BIPS (billion instructions/second) server yesterday, and aside from the link to the credit card machine being down for about seven hours, all seems to be well. I'm going to spend the day chilling out a little and visiting my parents. Enjoy Presidents Day!

Nathan

6:36 pm -

At 10:48 AM 2/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi Nate,
>
>Out of curiosity, what is apollo ? and when did it become an
>alternatieve to hermes?
>
>Yesterday guys from the east coast logging on to irc.gaycafe.com were
>winding up at "apollo" in the "gaycafe" channel. Simultaneously myself
>and a few others logging in found ourselves at hermes.csd.net in the
>"gaycafe".
>
>The difficulty being that neither visitor could see the other, the server
>remained relatively empty all day as no one was finding anyone to talk to.
>In fact i idled for over four hours last night with out a single visitor.
>Later I talked to TR and he informed me that he had logged in and had not
>seen me, that is the point in time I became aware of the two server
>addresses. He had connected with apollo and I with hermes.
>
>
>Just curious, I am tracking down the IRC software and getting help and
>information files. Problem is it's all UNIX and i don't have the software
>to actually install and learn it, but I'll get some local help with it.
>
>If you have nay info about this server anamoly it would be helpful to know
>as i could explain it to some of the more learned vistiors who are
>interested. I enjoy the new photos and additions. Discovered somehow I
>have some coins to spend at my disposal, I thank you.
>
>
>Well keep in touch when you find the time, take care of yourself .
>
>
>Duff

There was a move of The Cafe from the hermes server to the apollo server yesterday, so I assume that it was a DNS issue which caused some people to go to one IRC sever while others were bounced to the new one. This should go away in a few days or so as ISPs update their DNS listings, but to be sure, I've copied Aaron on this note to see that the IRC server is set-up to work properly.

Nathan

6:36 pm - "re:your site"

At 05:21 PM 2/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I am very dissapointed in your web site. It is a lie that it is only $5 a
>month when you have to purchase coins to view pictures. The pictures that
>are available to view are thumbnails. The $5 a month is a disappointing
>lie. I plan to tell all my friends that your site is a rip off. If there
>is any way that you can refund my money, I will reconsider my position. I
>hope that in the future you will not misrepresent your product.
>
>Sincerely,
>Andrew

Hi Andrew,

I'm happy that you wrote because it gives me an opportunity to point out some things that you haven't noticed. First, access to the members only sections of the site do cost $5.00 a month. The only "catch" -- if you will -- is that you have to pay for two months to start ($10.00) or you can buy more than that (say six months for $30 or a year for $50 -- all are at or below $5.00 a month.) Please keep in mind that it is unrealistic, and somewhat financially impossible to sell a $5.00 membership directly when it costs me almost $2.40 to do that ... I wouldn't still be around to offer the site if I made decisions like that.

However, as far as photos go (don't forget about the Personals, as well as access to the Nifty Archive, and the IRC chat server which are kept free) everyone with an account has access to the photos in the regular gallery:

http://www.gaycafe.com/photos/index.html

If you click down that page, you will find over 12 different categories with some 1,500 photos that you are free to download so long as your account is active. The Cafe Coins come in for access to the photos in sections like Hadrian's Villa and the FoersterMedia magazines. These are photos that have been licensed from the photographers, scanned onto PhotoCD from the original slides or negatives, and converted into high quality JPEG images that are available on an individual basis by exchanging in one coin for one photo. As such, you won't find these photos anywhere else, and they are of outstanding quality compared to what you will find anywhere else on the Internet.

The fact that you are able to only view thumbnails (which by the way are all fairly large 120x180 pixels in size and in full color) allows you to see which photos you want to spend your coin on rather than just guessing. In addition, all the photos that you spend coins on are archived in a personal collection that is stored on-line for you -- so it isn't required that you download all the photos to your own computer, and should something ever happen to your downloaded collection, you can always come back to the site and re-download all the photos that you've already added to your collection without having to search for them all over again. It's an investment that you get to build up over time if having photos is what you're after.

If you think that The Cafe is a ripoff, then I am sorry. Perhaps you should spend some time at other sites, and see what you get for your dollar and time there (Are they going to be around in three months? How fast do their pages load? Are you able to navigate through them easily because there is consistency? What kind of service do you get when you send then an e-mail? Are they more concerned about making a quick buck or providing you with an enjoyable spot to spend time?). Better yet, what if you compare it to the video sites that sell you 15 minutes of live video (delivered slowly and of low quality) to your computer screen for a *minimum* of $70.00?

If you desire a refund, I will give you one, however I insist that you keep the account and use it none the less. I have looked up your username, and added 60 extra Cafe Coins so that you can play around some more (visit the FoersterMedia magazines, and buy one of those.) I work very hard to provide the service that I do for the low cost that I do it, so I want to make sure that people understand how to get the most "bang for their buck." However, I can't just give everything away for free. It costs a lot of money to operate a stable site like this, and at $5.00 a month, that's not a hell of a lot to play with.

Again, thank you for taking some time to write. I hope that you will reconsider your position, and let me know about it.

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

6:36 pm - "RE: Welcome to The Cafe."

At 06:08 AM 2/16/97 UT, you wrote:
>thanks, I am having difficulties staying connected to your site...for some
>reason my computer freezes when I try to view any of the galleries....any
>suggestions.....

Alan,

I just moved the site to a different server yesterday (a "slower" 1.2 billion instructions/second machine) so there may still be some DNS problems. This is a sub-system that determines which machine to get the information from, so if MSN hasn't updated their DNS records recently, then they are most likely still looking for information on the old machine when in fact it has moved to a new machine. Usually this process takes a day or so before everything works properly.

If you think that there is something else the matter, please let me know the address of the page that you are having difficulties with and I will look into it further. Thank you for taking a moment to write, and I hope that you enjoy the site.

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

6:39 pm - "Re: thanks"

At 12:34 PM 2/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear Nate,
>Thank you for all of those coins! I, of course, became *miss piggy*, and use
>80 of them on *boy oh boy*. But it was well worth it.
> I hope you can get some time off to be able to spend it with Shawn.
>You need some quality sharing and R & R.
>Thanks again,
>
>Peter

You're welcome Peter. :)

Nathan

7:02 pm - "Re: Gung ho-ness.."

At 11:35 AM 2/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Nathan,
>
>You're right. :-)
>I'm just too gung ho for my own good. :-)
>And your solution, which I did read before but passed over because of
>my over zealousness, makes a lot more sense than what I have been doing:
>e-mailing the information to myself. Each person has their own e-mail
>message and I manually type their information into an ICVerify-ish
>software program the bank provided. The one file created by a script
>on the web server would be a lot easier to deal with and make a lot more
>sense... perhaps I would have thought of it more-readily if I hadn't used
>First Virtual's process, which is based the same way. :-)
>Err... here goes, yet another appeal. *hidden face smile* Do you have the
>script that does that? Or do you remember how much you paid your guy to
>write it? I've still got the names of programmers who responded to my
>add requesting bids to write the entire automation script, so I could
>write them changing my specifications and see what numbers they came
>back with.
>As for focusing on making the site more worthwhile to join, I'm doing
>that, too. I'm attaching a scan of a photo which I took about a month
>ago. Check it out and let me know what you think...
>As for that whole partner thing, I've been thinking about it... what
>would I do? I mean, what are you ideas on it more specifically? :-)
>
>Talk to you soon,
>Justin
>
>Attachment Converted: C:\EUDORA\see_this.jpg

Justin,

I'm happy to see that you're taking my suggestion regarding the method to processing the credit cards. I promise that it will be effective enough for you to get started.

As to the script, the ones that I have are far to specialized to the structure that I have, so they wouldn't be of any use but confusion to you. I'm actually confused about just what script you're talking about -- one that handles the on-line registration, adds the username to the authentication database, and places the information into a log file ... or one that formats the data from the log file so that ICVerify can process it?

In either case, my scripts won't be of any use to you, however you're in luck because both of these things are simple enough to do. If it is the first, then I would say let me write it for you (I wouldn't pay more than $80 to have it done.) If it is the second, then I would say that you don't need a script, just a good MS-Excel "find and replace" macro. As to the exact delimiters and sequence of the information, we'll have to consult the ICVerify manual (which I don't have available at the moment.) It's super simple, and I know that it can be done easily by using a macro instead -- remember that you're just dealing with text, and all you need to do is extract the pieces you need, and put them together in the format that you want. That's all. :)

Thanks for the photo. Are they all in black and white? ;) Two things that I want to point out (that may or not be important.) 1. Consistency. Pick a format (JPEG) and size (333x500) and approximate file size (20-50K) for your photos. 2. CYA. I mentioned model releases. If you're photographing your friends (or whoever you can photograph) then you need to get and start using model releases for the material. I can send you some samples of what they need to say.

As to the partner thing .. I just want someone to work with that will add to what I do and I can add to what they do. Going to work if more fun if there are other people to work with. What I want to do is establish and leave The Gay Cafe as nothing more than a HUGE archive of sexy photos of naked men. I've given up on doing anything else with it since it is clear that this material is what people want the most. I know however, that many people tend to "get their fill" of these photos, and are left to pursue things like relationships, or personal discovery, or just talking with other people that are interesting or similar to them. This area is where I want to spend the bulk of my time. Encouraging you to operate koool.com as yet another source for sexy photos isn't want I want to do, but I'll support it. One alternative would be to let you license the photos that you create (or have legal rights to exploit) through The Gay Cafe in the same way that I do the photos in Hadrian's Villa and the FoersterMedia magazines. I charge the user one coin for each photo, and Cafe coins have some value to them (25 cents at the moment, which I want to get down to 10 cents soon -- to imagine that when I started this the people INSISTED on $1.00 per photo because that was super cheap compared to what they used to sell them for in mail order or to magazines. That was completely unrealistic for the Internet as everyone either steals their smut or expects everything to be free anyway. It's been an uphill battle to convince them that the cost needs to be cheap, the product (photo) of the best quality, and an abundance of photos to choose from. I think I just might win!) There is already more than enough sex to occupy gay men for years, but I would prefer to give them something else to do with their time -- a way to use their mind instead of their body as a means of amusement.

I suppose that I can't offer any *specific* ideas for you as to what we could do together. All I know is that I've got a lot of talent and resources that I have been trying to use for something other than delivering sexy photos to the world, but I've got to give in and do that ... otherwise there won't be anything left to work on period. I wish that I didn't have to pedal smut, but it's the only thing at the moment that I can count on to pay the bills.

I created your Cafe account today, you should get an e-mail receipt.

I'm going out for Chinese with my parents at 7:30p -- and I spent some time playing with WebTV this afternoon. Think about this: There are 80 million televisions in the US alone. There are some 20 million people using the Internet. :)

Talk to you soon,

Nathan

9:24 pm - "Re: Foerster Photo"

At 08:25 PM 2/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Nathan,
>
> I love your web sight. Just needed to voice my opinion about this new
>site: Foerster's. What a rip off. $5.00 for 2 pics worth downloading.
> Wanted the first hot guy shown in the surf, hard body etc. Purchased access
>to the first set of pages and he's not there. Is this a way of getting more
>money, "Hide the real stud" and make everyone look for him? Not fair.
>
> Again, just wanted to express my own opinion. And I really do love
>spending time in the Cafe.
>
>John

Hi John,

I think that you're right, and a good solution would be to open those magazines up like the photos in Hadrian's Villa, so that people can look at all the thumbnails, and just take the ones that they want. So many people were asking for photos "in bulk" that I thought this would be a good idea.

Anyway, I've added 20 Cafe Coins to your account to make up for your disappointing $5.00 purchase, so I hope that you can apply these to another set of photos that you will enjoy more. :)

Thank you for taking a moment to write,

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

9:24 pm - "re:your site"

At 08:59 PM 2/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Nathan,
>
>OK, so maybe I over reacted and appreciate your letter. This is the first
>site like this that I have ever signed up for and I guess that I just
>expected more, but I had no idea of the cost on your end. Thanks for the
>coins I look forward to using them in the future. I signed up for 2 months
>and will not be renewing my account because of these extra expenses that I
>did not know existed, however I encourage you to include these extra
>expenses when advertising your site because it is rather misleading. Thank
>you for your time.
>
>Andrew

You're welcome Andrew, and I'll put together a more thorough "Welcome" package that clearly explains what's at the site and how things work so that confusion like this can be avoided by other people in the future.

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

9:24 pm - "Cafe Acount Renewal"

At 08:49 PM 2/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Nathan...
>
>I'm a 1 month subscriber to your service and would like to continue for a
>full year (I believe the charge is $30.00). Anyway, when I try to extend my
>subscription over the "Cafe Personals" registration feature I keep getting
>the message that my password is already in use (obviously, that's because I
>already have it and I'm not a new suscriber).
>
>Could you handle this for me and sign me up for a full year under my
>exhisting identification so I don't have to re-enroll? Bill to my Visa which
>I assume you already have. If not you can call me at my office.
>
>Many thanks...you have a great service. John

Hi John,

Thank you for your one year renewal. It is actually $35.00 -- and you should be receiving an e-mail receipt in a few moments.

Your username and password are still the same. :) Thank you again,

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

9:24 pm - "Re: hardcopy for sale?"

At 11:20 PM 2/17/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Just wondering if you sell http://gaycafe.com/preview/aaa.html as a
>hardcopy poster, or only as a download.
>
>Please let me know--would love to hang on my wall!!!!
>
>Thanks! Craig

Hi Craig,

I can't make a hard copy available. But if memory serves that is Lucas Ridgeston, and you should be able to find a calendar of him in any popular bookstore that sells that type of thing. :) I understand that he is a really nice guy, and is still amazingly popular. Was it the Boss underwear ads? I forget.

Thanks for taking a moment to write.

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

11:41 pm - "Re: Welcome to The Cafe."

At 07:44 PM 2/17/97 EST, you wrote:
>It appears I have entered my DOB incorrectly, it is:
>
>09/20/69, September 20, 1969
>
>I don't know if this is a big dal, but for the record this is how it
>should appear.

Hi Grant,

I've corrected it. Thank you.

Nathan Johansen
International Cafe, Inc.

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